Vibe code vs no-code: Softr CEO on the future of app building

​​Recorded live at SaaStock Europe 2025, The SaaS Revolution Show host Alex Theuma speaks to Mariam Hakobyan, CEO and Co-founder of Softr, to explore the evolution of app building in the AI era.

Mariam shares how Softr has grown to over 1M non-technical builders, without a sales team, and why she believes that companies solving real, hard problems will win.

Discover why vibe coded apps only get you so far, how AI is reshaping no-code, and what it takes to scale a company that lasts. 

 In this episode:

• Softr’s organic growth story: 1M builders, zero sales team.
• The difference between vibe code and no-code platforms.
• How AI and no-code together are changing how we build software.
• Why solving fundamental problems still wins.
• The hardest challenge for SaaS founders today: distribution.

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